. >> sean: george zimmerman filed a lawsuit. they ede edited the operator asg is he black, white, hispanic. good for george zimmerman. that was purposely deceptive on their part. this is now -- this is now becoming an -- i don't know what the reason is, but this is now their m.o., and i think it's harmful to the dialogue. it's certainly hurting their news brand. if i'm tom brokaw, if i'm matt lauer or brian williams, i'd be embarrassed by what my news organization is doing regularly now. >> you know, what's interesting to me is that i think this whole conversation about race over the last four years since the president's been in office. i mean, there has been an undertone where we haven't used racial language specifically, but there's been a racial con connotation. >> this is where i disagree. >> he's one of the most educated men ever, and we're still questioning whether he's born in the country. >> here's the thing. we actually haven't had a conversation about race, and that's where i disagree with you. because a conversation a